Tom Snyder trying to learn about Ayn Rand's objectivism and in this interview they are getting into religion. And Ayn telling Tom that "religion is wrong and not for people who base their beliefs on religion". And that is probably putting it nicely. Snyder was a lifelong Catholic, so probably hearing Ayn Rand who was what I would call a fundamentalist Atheist talking about why she doesn't like religion is probably hard for him to hear. But that is why Snyder did these interviews to learn about how others think even when he disagrees with them.