Friday, January 12, 2024

Harry Litman: 'Mike Pence Shared APPALLING DETAILS On 2020 Election'

Source:Harry Litman- former Vice President of the United States Mike Pence (Republican, Indiana) 2017-2021.

"Former Vice President Mike Pence spoke to the January 6th special counsel earlier this year, revealing some shocking new information about Trump's behavior leading up to the insurrection. Pence shared that he had told Trump multiple times that there was no sign of "outcome-determinative fraud." He also referred to Trump's lawyers as "crank" attorneys who relied on "un-American" legal theories." 


“Speaking with special counsel Jack Smith’s team earlier this year, former Vice President Mike Pence offered harrowing details about how, in the wake of the 2020 presidential election, then-President Donald Trump surrounded himself with “crank” attorneys, espoused “un-American” legal theories, and almost pushed the country toward a “constitutional crisis,” according to sources familiar with what Pence told investigators.”

From ABC News

"The advice of counsel defense is based on the common sense principle that a defendant should not be held liable for actions taken based on reasonable reliance on the advice of counsel. Such reliance negates wrongful intent. The defense contains four elements: (1) The defendant made a complete disclosure to counsel concerning the matter at issue, (2) the defendant sought advice as to the legality of his conduct, (3) the defendant received advice that his conduct was legal, and (4) the defendant relied on that advice in good faith.3 A defendant who asserts the defense must, of course, waive the attorney-client privilege, which is why defendants often prefer to allude to the involvement of lawyers without formally asserting the defense. Even those defendants who earnestly want to assert the defense face a difficult hurdle of showing that they made a complete disclosure to counsel concerning the matter at issue." 


I think we knew even before Mike Pence announced his presidential campaign last year, that then Vice President Mike Pence told then President Donald Trump, that there's nothing that the Vice President could do according to the Constitution, to unilaterally reverse the 2020 presidential election result in favor of President Trump, or unilaterally just go past Congress, to send the election back to the states. But like every other time that Donald Trump gets bad news about himself, he ignores that and looks for another option.

The advice of counsel defense can only be used when you are completely reliant on bad legal advice and lawyers who are either crooked or incompetent. The problem that Donald Trump has here, is that his own Attorney General Bill Barr (who also happens to be a lawyer) told President Trump in December, 2020, that there was no real election fraud in the 2020 presidential election and the President ignored that as well. Along with a team of lawyers working for Donald Trump on his 2020 appeals telling the President that they are out of legal options and that he lost. Which is what one of Donald Trump's co-defendants Ken Chesebro, has already told Special Counsel Jack Smith. 

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